Oh what to do?

Post by **John Sayers** » Thu May 01, 2003 11:07 am

well if you can record things like drums elsewhere why not shorten the control room just enough to allow for a small vox booth at the top of the drawing with a separate door entrance top right??

cheers
john

jc71 · Post by **jc71** » Thu May 01, 2003 11:39 am

Can't add or move the entrance to the room.

Thanks again!
Jeff

jc71 · Post by **jc71** » Mon May 05, 2003 11:47 am

Well, I think that I will keep it as one room. I am just looking for some input as to treating it properly. I have attached yet more drawings, with this design being probably the easiest to construct. I was concerned that these designs do leave me with a small amount of parallel walls (the door & the opposing wall) would this be alright if treated properly (and what type?) or would I be better off going back to my earlier drawing where the front of the control room would be offset @ an angle. Please note that I have been studing everything I can on all the associated sites & if anything I think I'm getting more confused. I would like to hone this in so as to start construction as soon as possible.

Thanks Again, Cheers!
Jeff

Post by **John Sayers** » Mon May 05, 2003 12:03 pm

OK - sorry can't read the small text.

Here are a couple of thoughts regarding areas you could treat without loosing too much space.

cheers
john

jc71 · Post by **jc71** » Mon May 05, 2003 1:55 pm

Sorry, I was wondering if the small type would be a problem. Pretty much what I was thinking was to have the front of the room with cloth covered 703 with acoustic hangers behind that with the walls angled as shown. I could then add speaker soffits later if I chose to with out a lot of difficulty. The side walls would be slot resonators angled in at 6 degrees each thus giving me my 12 degree minimum. I am really looking to you for advice for the rear of the room. I do have (although the drawing doesn't show clearly) a split system air conditioning unit centered on the wall just down from the ceiling. this might pose a problem with your suggestion of slopeing the ceiling back the otherway, if I was to understand you correctly. I am going ahead an attaching my rear wall elevation that I had previously drawn up but was unable to attach to my last post. It shows one of my Ideas, but moreover it shows part of what I currently have on the wall, which is the a/c unit & just below that is a diffuser that I made using 1"x 6" frame that I routed grooves in, then placed approximately 2" wide strips of hard board (top in the front groove bottom in the back groove) so as to create a wave to the slats. The diffuser is painted & is sort a cool piece of art. I would like use it if possible, but if not oh well! I like your ideas for the back corners & opposite the door. What sort of treatment were you thinking of? The ceiling is also open to ideas. My drawing although hard to tell showed a false celing of cloth above the mix position followed by a slot resonator from that position slopeing back towards the rear of the room.

Thanks Again, and Cheers!
Jeff

Post by **John Sayers** » Mon May 05, 2003 5:02 pm

Ah - I thought you had the slot ceiling from the front leaning up to above your chair, which would be the preferable place to have it.
Can't read the last pic to understand it

select all and increase the font size.
cheers
JOhn

jc71 · Post by **jc71** » Tue May 06, 2003 12:03 pm

John thanks for the speedy responses! I think I will have to do this in two post due to the limited number of attachments. I am sendind the previous drawings with the increased font & I will also send two that show out lines of what I think that you have in mind shape wise & maybe you could direct me as to what absorbers etc. to use where. Here they are! Look forward to hearing from you soon!

Thanks Again, & Cheers!
Jeff

jc71 · Post by **jc71** » Tue May 06, 2003 12:21 pm

Ok, lets try this again!

jc71 · Post by **jc71** » Tue May 06, 2003 12:29 pm

Well I think that should be better, and for the rest...

jc71 · Post by **jc71** » Fri May 09, 2003 2:24 pm

Hi John! Call me impatient, just anxiously awaiting your reply!

Thanks
Jeff

Post by **John Sayers** » Sat May 10, 2003 10:05 am

That looks fine Jeff - I'd use the same absorbers you drew before but change the shape to the new design.

cheers
john

jc71 · Post by **jc71** » Tue May 13, 2003 7:34 am

Thanks John, I'm attaching two new drawings showing what I think you mean. Please correct me where I'm wrong. Do the slot absorbers look ok? can I put the slots @ an angle? I think its ok. Should the slot absorber on the ceiling trade places with the cloth false ceiling? I thought that you had recomended that. What slot width & slot size do you recomend? Should all the walls & the ceiling be different or the same?Would you recommend panel absorbers In the front corners just like the back? If so should the all be Ethans low frequency design? Or should I use hanging panels behind all of the front wall? WOW! Sorry for all the questions. That having been said any other advice would be great!!

Thanks Again, Cheers!
Jeff

Post by **John Sayers** » Tue May 13, 2003 8:35 am

yes. that will work and I would swap the ceilings. I wouldn't worry about the front panel absorbers, just go with the hangers.

cheers
john

jc71 · Post by **jc71** » Tue May 13, 2003 10:17 am

What do you recomend for the slots, like 1" x 4", or 1"x 6" pine boards alternately spaced @ 1/8", 1/4" & 1/2"? Just curious but why switch the location of the ceilings? (i.e. why the slot absorber up front?) Speaking of the front of the room, what type of insulation do you use to wrap the soundboard with for the acoustic hangers, 703 or regular batt insulation like builders use in the walls? Should the actual walls of the room that are around the hangers have anything on them or should they be left plain old textured & painted drywall as they are now? Also the cavity behind the 703 of the slot absorbers?

Thanks Yet Again, Cheers!
Jeff

Post by **John Sayers** » Wed May 14, 2003 8:29 am

for the slots you can use either 6" or 4" with the gaps you specified. Work it out with the calculator at SAE.
Putting the slot ceiling over you angles the front section and directs any reflections behind you.
You only need use standard insulation for the hangers and I'd line the walls as well with 703.

cheers
JOhn