jkurtz wrote:
I am also considering using Sliding doors instead of a window and a door between the drum booth and the CR. I saw a spec in a post somewhere that suggested the glass for the sliding door should be 5/16in thick. I have not seen such a door anywhere. Even doors costing $1,100 had two panes of 1/8 or 3/16 in glass with 3/4 to 7/8 inch gap. Can you tell me what I should be looking for?
Sliding doors/ 9 light entry doors (pella/reliant, etcc) are fine (in a double door arrangement of course) PAtio French door or plain old sliding patio doors as you suggested.....
One suggestion, I would float the control room floor and the drum room floor. Leaving the big room unfloated, maybe floating the iso room floors....
A properly damped floated floor in that drum room will give a GREAT kick tone aside form normal tuning and drum selection....
Bryan Giles
FOH Live, Live Remote & Studio Engineer
Producer
Just living life and having fun with all this talent YHWH Elohim has given me.
I also agree with the framer. In fact, building code may require it. I seem to recall seeing something about hallways needing to have a minimum width of 30" or something...
Sorry to get back to you so late. I was enjoying the Thanksgiving week with the family. I wanted to answer your question about the CR dimensions. I have attached a drawingof the floor plan with dimensions. It is difficult to know where to pull the dimensions from due to the iregular shape. I hope I have given you enough detail. The ceiling height is an unknown at this point. I am not sure how high it should be. I do want to slant it as other have done, but am not sure of the formula for calcuating the height and angle, as well as the apex point. From the concrete floor to the bottom of the floor joist above is exactly 9 feet.
As you had mentioned, I do plan on floating the CR, Drum booth and the two Vocal booths. To preserve precious ceiling height I had planned on using 2x4s (as opposed to 2x6s) for the floor joists, floated on Auralex U-boats, unless someone has a good reason for me to do differently. I thought I would use resiliant channel and two layers of Drywall above the CR, and Main Recording area, to keep noise transfer to the main floor of the house to a minimum. For the drum booth I had planned on putting in it's own ceiling completely isolated from the upstairs (No RC), and Owens Corning 703 insulation above that. I thought that might give me the additional isolation required to isolate the drums from the main floor of the house. The walls of all of the rooms will be isolated from the floor structures with Auralex Sheetblock.
A few questions:
1) What did you mean by "properly damped floated floor" in the drum booth. I had planned on using U-boats, then 2x4s, then two layers of 3/4 OSB. Is that damped, or is there something else that needs to be done?
2) I was not sure what your response to my sliding door question was. Am I OK with the typical $450-$600 sliding door?There would be two doors facing each other and off parallel by 12 degrees. Minimum seperation is about three inches.
3) What height should the Apex of my CR false ceiling be? I believe I will lose 6 inches of height from the isolated floor, and probably 4inches from the Resiliant Channel ceiling.
4) Will 2x4s on U-boats provide sufficient isolation for an Iso room floor?
5) The vocal booths each have a small section of parallel walls. Your last comment pertaining to the design was that everything looks good. Should I be concerned about the small section of parallel walls?
6) I would like to start determining where Traps, resonators, etc will need to go, and what type should be used as well as the construction technique. I have read Ethan Winer's Acoustic Treatment article several times. I am still digesting some of that information. Is there a guru that can tell by my plans where I should place the proper acoustic treatment devices and what type? I am assuming that some sort of Bass Trap will go in every corner. Is that a valid assumption?
Those are all the questions I have right now. Thank you so much for your assistance.
jkurtz wrote:. . . I had planned on using 2x4s (as opposed to 2x6s) for the floor joists, floated on Auralex U-boats, unless someone has a good reason for me to do differently. . .
I took the Auralex U-boats off my list because of their lack of published specs and their subsequent deafening silence on the subject when pressed for more information. As a result, I've taken EPDM off my list as well: no specs, no proof: no use.
Thanks for your input. I will press them for technical specs as I get closer to finished plans. If they cannot provide adequate info, I'll use another product. The two main attributes I like about their product are the shape (wraps around a stud), and the extended life compared to other such products.
Just out of curiosity, HAS ANYONE USED THE AURALEX U-BOATS?
I have several questions that have not been responded to yet. I thought I would re-post them with a few additional ones. Thank you all for your assistance.
1) Bryan Giles: What did you mean by "properly damped floated floor" in the drum booth. I had planned on using U-boats, then 2x4s, then two layers of 3/4 OSB. Is that damped, or is there something else that needs to be done?
2) I was not sure what your response to my sliding door question was. Am I OK with the typical $450-$600 sliding door?There would be two doors facing each other and off parallel by 12 degrees. Minimum seperation is about three inches.
3) What height should the Apex of my CR false ceiling be? I believe I will lose 6 inches of height from the isolated floor, and probably 4inches from the Resiliant Channel ceiling.
4) Will 2x4s on U-boats provide sufficient isolation for an Iso room floor, or or I need 2x6s.
5) The vocal booths each have a small section of parallel walls. Is that an issue.
6) I would like to start determining where Traps, resonators, etc will need to go, and what type should be used as well as the construction technique. I have read Ethan Winer's Acoustic Treatment article several times. I am still digesting some of that information. Is there a guru that can tell by my plans where I should place the proper acoustic treatment devices and what type? I am assuming that some sort of Bass Trap will go in every corner. Is that a valid assumption?
7) I noticed that the max width and max length of my control room is about the same. I took the plan from Johns samples. Is this an issue?
