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Posted: Wed Nov 09, 2005 5:08 pm
by fisher of men
Well I got started on the second layer......Rotated to make stronger and more airtight.
Cant wait to be done with the ceiling!

steve

Posted: Wed Nov 09, 2005 5:11 pm
by giles117
Just as long as the seams dont mate up (except of course at the walls. :) )

Posted: Wed Nov 09, 2005 5:23 pm
by fisher of men
I can’t find a way around it! Some seams will always mach-up because the edges of the drywall have to be screwed to the studs, unless i am missing something (and I probably am as my brain is fried) :shock:

steve

Posted: Wed Nov 09, 2005 8:49 pm
by knightfly
Shift one layer (the second one, now) over by TWO feet and same lengthwise; cut half-sheets to fill the 2 foot blank areas, then continue with full sheets to the end, then fill with whatever size works for the last sheet in each dimension - that way, you have at least a 2 foot offset for each joint in each direction (assuming your joists are on 2 foot centers)

HTH... Steve

Posted: Thu Nov 10, 2005 1:45 am
by sharward
fisher of men wrote:I got mine on ebay, with shipping it came to around 300$ However the crank assembly is flimsy and with the extension it adds allot of stress to that crank.
I too have seen that "infamous red copycat model" on eBay for a few hundred dollars less than the "real" TelPro one. I feared it was too flimsy, and your report confirms this.

In my case, I only have to go up about 10 feet... But still, I'm a chicken, so I'm still planning to get the one with "pro" in its name so that (1) I can have more confidence in it and (2) I can get more money for it when I sell it when I'm done. 8)

Thanks for the info!
I got started on the second layer......Rotated to make stronger and more airtight.
I see -- but you're still not staggering!! :evil: I hate to repeat myself, but...

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Source: Hanging Ceiling Drywall on Easy2DIY.com

Posted: Thu Nov 10, 2005 11:09 am
by fisher of men
Thanks guys for all your help and good ideas, i have got to much done to start over now and i am hopeing that i wont have to much performance loss.
knightfly,,, I did shift over 2' on the side and now there are very few seams that line up. I now see what you are saying, and I will use it on the walls.
Thanks again, steve

Posted: Thu Nov 10, 2005 6:18 pm
by sharward
And you'd better stagger the panels on the walls, or I'm gonna take I-5 south to your neck of the woods and knock you upside the head with a drywall scrap! :shock: ;-)

Posted: Thu Nov 10, 2005 7:54 pm
by fisher of men
:oops: :oops: I know better now........

steve

Posted: Tue Nov 15, 2005 5:49 am
by jeffjazz
hello, sorry to jump in here so late, but i did not notice a vapor barrier on your ceiling - shouldn't there be one just between the insulation and drywall?
:?:

Posted: Tue Nov 15, 2005 6:01 am
by giles117
fisher of men wrote::oops: :oops: I know better now........

steve
Hey Fisher remember this one...

In All thy Getting, get an understanding :)

It's cool we all are learning in here. :)

Posted: Tue Nov 15, 2005 8:07 am
by sharward
I think you mean vapor retarder... Yes, there's a difference. See: Based on that excerpt, I'm thinking that neither a vapor barrier nor a vapor retarder is needed, since he's in Southern California -- an area which is not in a cool or cold climate according to Figure 21 on page 17 of the document (which is page 23 of the PDF).

Does anyone disagree with this assessment? :roll:

Posted: Tue Nov 15, 2005 9:32 am
by giles117
I actually Agree with this asessment. Seems totally unecessary to me, unless he is worried about the roof leaking onto his gear at some point.

Posted: Tue Nov 15, 2005 9:34 pm
by knightfly
Agreed; especially if my unanswered question about roll roofing over ply is correct. That will act as a pretty complete vapor barrier, and you don't want TWO in any partition. Paper is a VARIABLE perm material, sorta works as well as you need it, so that would be OK but not necessary... Steve

Posted: Wed Nov 16, 2005 12:55 am
by sharward
Awesome -- that answers a question I've had for some time about whether or not I should do a vapor barrier -- er, uh, retarder. I'm definitely not in a cool climate!

Posted: Thu Nov 17, 2005 7:05 am
by fisher of men
I got started on the parti. wall im adding the second layer of drywall to this wall with STAGERED seams :lol: so no seams will line up on the existing wall and where it will mate to the ceiling.
After this layer is done I will start framing the soundproof wall 12" away from this one.
Thank you all for your help This is a great site!
steve
knightfly Agreed; especially if my unanswered question about roll roofing over ply is correct.

Sorry for the unanswered question, Yes there is rolled roofing 3/4 ply.
Thanks, :)