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Posted: Wed Nov 09, 2005 5:08 pm
by fisher of men
Well I got started on the second layer......Rotated to make stronger and more airtight.
Cant wait to be done with the ceiling!
steve
Posted: Wed Nov 09, 2005 5:11 pm
by giles117
Just as long as the seams dont mate up (except of course at the walls.

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Posted: Wed Nov 09, 2005 5:23 pm
by fisher of men
I can’t find a way around it! Some seams will always mach-up because the edges of the drywall have to be screwed to the studs, unless i am missing something (and I probably am as my brain is fried)
steve
Posted: Wed Nov 09, 2005 8:49 pm
by knightfly
Shift one layer (the second one, now) over by TWO feet and same lengthwise; cut half-sheets to fill the 2 foot blank areas, then continue with full sheets to the end, then fill with whatever size works for the last sheet in each dimension - that way, you have at least a 2 foot offset for each joint in each direction (assuming your joists are on 2 foot centers)
HTH... Steve
Posted: Thu Nov 10, 2005 1:45 am
by sharward
fisher of men wrote:I got mine on ebay, with shipping it came to around 300$ However the crank assembly is flimsy and with the extension it adds allot of stress to that crank.
I too have seen that "infamous red copycat model" on eBay for a few hundred dollars less than the "real" TelPro one. I feared it was too flimsy, and your report confirms this.
In my case, I only have to go up about 10 feet... But still, I'm a chicken, so I'm still planning to get the one with "pro" in its name so that (1) I can have more confidence in it and (2) I can get more money for it when I sell it when I'm done.
Thanks for the info!
I got started on the second layer......Rotated to make stronger and more airtight.
I see -- but you're still not staggering!!

I hate to repeat myself, but...
Source: Hanging Ceiling Drywall on Easy2DIY.com
Posted: Thu Nov 10, 2005 11:09 am
by fisher of men
Thanks guys for all your help and good ideas, i have got to much done to start over now and i am hopeing that i wont have to much performance loss.
knightfly,,, I did shift over 2' on the side and now there are very few seams that line up. I now see what you are saying, and I will use it on the walls.
Thanks again, steve
Posted: Thu Nov 10, 2005 6:18 pm
by sharward
And you'd better
stagger the panels on the walls, or I'm gonna take I-5 south to your neck of the woods and knock you upside the head with a drywall scrap!

Posted: Thu Nov 10, 2005 7:54 pm
by fisher of men

I know better now........
steve
Posted: Tue Nov 15, 2005 5:49 am
by jeffjazz
hello, sorry to jump in here so late, but i did not notice a vapor barrier on your ceiling - shouldn't there be one just between the insulation and drywall?

Posted: Tue Nov 15, 2005 6:01 am
by giles117
fisher of men wrote:

I know better now........
steve
Hey Fisher remember this one...
In All thy Getting, get an understanding
It's cool we all are learning in here.

Posted: Tue Nov 15, 2005 8:07 am
by sharward
I think you mean vapor
retarder... Yes, there's a difference. See:
Based on that excerpt, I'm thinking that
neither a vapor barrier
nor a vapor retarder is needed, since he's in Southern California -- an area which is
not in a cool or cold climate according to Figure 21 on page 17 of the document (which is page 23 of the PDF).
Does anyone disagree with this assessment?

Posted: Tue Nov 15, 2005 9:32 am
by giles117
I actually Agree with this asessment. Seems totally unecessary to me, unless he is worried about the roof leaking onto his gear at some point.
Posted: Tue Nov 15, 2005 9:34 pm
by knightfly
Agreed; especially if my unanswered question about roll roofing over ply is correct. That will act as a pretty complete vapor barrier, and you don't want TWO in any partition. Paper is a VARIABLE perm material, sorta works as well as you need it, so that would be OK but not necessary... Steve
Posted: Wed Nov 16, 2005 12:55 am
by sharward
Awesome -- that answers a question I've had for some time about whether or not I should do a vapor barrier -- er, uh, retarder. I'm definitely not in a cool climate!
Posted: Thu Nov 17, 2005 7:05 am
by fisher of men
I got started on the parti. wall im adding the second layer of drywall to this wall with STAGERED seams

so no seams will line up on the existing wall and where it will mate to the ceiling.
After this layer is done I will start framing the soundproof wall 12" away from this one.
Thank you all for your help This is a great site!
steve
knightfly Agreed; especially if my unanswered question about roll roofing over ply is correct.
Sorry for the unanswered question, Yes there is rolled roofing 3/4 ply.
Thanks,
