Personal Studio Space

chrisaiken · Post by **chrisaiken** » Tue Sep 30, 2003 2:59 am

Hi John,
Things may have suddenly changed for the better (as in a little larger space)....When I know for sure I'll fill you in with the details.So hold that thought!
Thanks so much for the input thus far.
CHris

chrisaiken · Post by **chrisaiken** » Fri Oct 03, 2003 8:13 am

Hi John,
A quick question for ya...in a big garage (peak roof)type scenario if you had an option, would you make the ceiling in the tracking room go up to the peak?I'm thinking something like the Carriage house studio on your site.
Thanks,
Chris

Post by **John Sayers** » Fri Oct 03, 2003 9:14 am

Yes mate - use all the height you can get - in most basement studios the ceiling is the closest wall

:)

cheers
john

chrisaiken · Post by **chrisaiken** » Sat Oct 04, 2003 5:57 am

Hi John,

Ok here's the new space...I did quick drawing to get your opinion (I think it's kind of to scale).The main things I want to try and do is have a good size control room, as large as possible tracking room, a vocal/drum booth (only for use as drum booth when I need the isolation... which isn't too often as most stuff i do is overdubs,drums will usually be in the big room),and a bathroom/storage area.
Can you let me know if I'm kind of on the right track?I know the angles are probably not right (not sure how to do that) but it's a start.

Thanks,
Chris

Post by **John Sayers** » Sat Oct 04, 2003 10:46 am

Now that's a nice space mate- similar to this space at Left Bank:)

cheers
john

chrisaiken · Post by **chrisaiken** » Sun Oct 05, 2003 12:30 pm

Yes it's a nice size....I did notice the similar dimensions to left bank but for my uses I would rather keep a larger recording space and not take up the room with that many booths and a lounge etc... I'm kind of a one man show (producer/engineer) and it's not a commercial facility, mostly just me and when I need some players I get them but rarely is there more than one player recording at a time.My current place is just a control room and tracking room and it's works geat for my needs, however I thought one booth would be handy for the rare time I want to track a piano player and drummer at the same time.
So for my needs what do you think of the use of space?I'd love to hear you input.
Cheers,
Chris

giles117 · Post by **giles117** » Sun Oct 05, 2003 9:52 pm

SO for that RARE occassion you would track a piano and a drummer, you sacrifice isolation for all the bleed you will get when you record that piano and drummer in the SAME room??

Bryan Giles

Even being a one man show, I'd build the Left Bank plan if I had the space. Never know what can happen. Better to be prepared than to regret it later.

Post by **John Sayers** » Sun Oct 05, 2003 10:34 pm

Thanks Bryan

I'll get a recording off Armeril next tuesday when I'm at the studio of - piano, drums, bass and the singer all in the piano room together - sounds cool

Chris - the lounge area won't fit on your plan, in left bank it's a store room for gear and the odd sax player who wants to sit in.

cheers
John

chrisaiken · Post by **chrisaiken** » Mon Oct 06, 2003 3:39 am

"SO for that RARE occassion you would track a piano and a drummer, you sacrifice isolation for all the bleed you will get when you record that piano and drummer in the SAME room??"

I think you misunderstood me....Currently I'm working without a drumbooth,however in this new plan I do want to put one in, a drum booth that can double as a vocal booth (piano will be in the big room).I just don't need to do a lounge or to have a seperate vocal booth as well as drum booth is what I meant.I agree with you about being prepared...but I thought quite alot about it and I really enjoy having the large tracking room, (as I've had now for the last 4 years) it's great for drums and strings that I do quite frequently.I will probably also build some amp closets so I could do a live band with a guitar or two if need be,(bass is usually done in the control room direct and reamped later).Again it will never be used as a commercial studio.
Just wanted to clarify....I do really appreciate the input.
Cheers,
Chris

chrisaiken · Post by **chrisaiken** » Mon Oct 06, 2003 3:46 am

You're right about the lounge John he's got about an extra meter than me.I think my entrance needs work as it would be better to have larger doors for load ins.Back to the drawing board...
Chris

giles117 · Post by **giles117** » Mon Oct 06, 2003 5:53 am

Yeah, sorry, I missed one word in your msg.

However, why not just extend the piano side of the design the additional 2 meters (if you do not include the lounge, you have 2M more you can add based on your space.)

This will give you the extra room, and keep the drums further away from your piano than what you have layed out.

As well as keep the vocal booth close to the control room for communication purposes.

With those adjustments, you;d still have a large space and good room for load in

Bryan Giles

chrisaiken · Post by **chrisaiken** » Mon Oct 06, 2003 10:22 am

Hi Bryan,
Thanks for the input.Don't mind the roughness of this sketch,but is this kind of what you mean? (with doors and windows of course!)
If so what about the space where I put the question mark?
Chris

Post by **John Sayers** » Mon Oct 06, 2003 10:31 am

Chris - if you flip the control room and booths 180 degrees you can have the control room face the ?? area which can be another recording space.

Just one thing - I'd make it a double sliding door between the vocal and drum booths - one just isn't enough when you have drums in one of the booths I've discovered.

cheers
john

chrisaiken · Post by **chrisaiken** » Mon Oct 06, 2003 11:28 am

Yes that would make sense to turn it around,but I'm still not to sure about that layout for me.The main tracking room is to small for me considering the amount of space I have to work with.If this was going to be a commercial facility I would probably do it that way no question ,but if you knew the amount of times I need multiple booths like that....I know when I'm tracking drums I'll be thinking to myself I wonder how it would have sounded as a bigger room (mean while I'd be looking at my empty booths...lol)I'm going to give it a bit more thought and see if I can come up with something better with just the control room ,tracking room, and one booth.
Thanks,
Chris

Post by **John Sayers** » Mon Oct 06, 2003 12:32 pm

and see if I can come up with something better with just the control room ,tracking room, and one booth.

then drop the booths, move the control room to the right wall and use the ?? for the booth.

cheers
john