Re: very small room - mixes translate a loss in high frequen
Posted: Sat Nov 19, 2011 11:07 am
Hey there!
FINALLY! SOMETHING THAT FEELS LIKE SIGNIFICANT SUCCESS!!
Okay, here's what I have done. I figure that, recording in the room sounds good. That means that my treatment is very much in order. Mixes coming out wonky must (mostly) be (as was suggested) speaker placement.
I moved them this way and that and back again and to the middle and this way and that again, using various combinations of speakers standing and speakers on their sides and ultimately settled on what I wasn't expecting:
Woofer domes about 45" apart. Distance from dome to ears = about 27". Basically, getting them as far as possible out of the corners of the room without sending me back to the middle of the room, and with me being close enough to the speakers to minimize as much as possible the actual "sound" of the room, with that big nasty node around 100hz. (speakers standing)
I ran a few tests and had some significant improvements. There were still some trouble spots, so I adjusted the volume on my sub, and for the first time tweaked the EQ on my power amp - 100hz up just a hair; 1khz up about 1/3 of the way; 10khz up about 1/3 of the way.
^ green = two days ago; red = today
^ blue = before ANY treatment; red = today
Far from perfect, but a damn site better. There are still a couple of crazy dips, but not nearly as bad as they were (the worst one covers a distance of about 7db instead of 14db!!). The big drop off at the top end actually makes me happy (I think....) because it's the top end of my mix that tends to be dull. Having it drop off (yeah, even with some EQ on my power amp) will encourage me to add a little more. Perfect. (I hope I'm right about that....)
The waterfalls look encouraging too. The RT60 time looks better, as does the distribution across the bottom end from 20-260hz.
^ waterfall two days ago
^ waterfall today
Now that I finally seem to be getting somewhere, what could my next step be? Am I right about my thoughts about where I am right now? Any other guidance?
Appreciated, as always;
Chris
FINALLY! SOMETHING THAT FEELS LIKE SIGNIFICANT SUCCESS!!
Okay, here's what I have done. I figure that, recording in the room sounds good. That means that my treatment is very much in order. Mixes coming out wonky must (mostly) be (as was suggested) speaker placement.
I moved them this way and that and back again and to the middle and this way and that again, using various combinations of speakers standing and speakers on their sides and ultimately settled on what I wasn't expecting:
Woofer domes about 45" apart. Distance from dome to ears = about 27". Basically, getting them as far as possible out of the corners of the room without sending me back to the middle of the room, and with me being close enough to the speakers to minimize as much as possible the actual "sound" of the room, with that big nasty node around 100hz. (speakers standing)
I ran a few tests and had some significant improvements. There were still some trouble spots, so I adjusted the volume on my sub, and for the first time tweaked the EQ on my power amp - 100hz up just a hair; 1khz up about 1/3 of the way; 10khz up about 1/3 of the way.
^ green = two days ago; red = today
^ blue = before ANY treatment; red = today
Far from perfect, but a damn site better. There are still a couple of crazy dips, but not nearly as bad as they were (the worst one covers a distance of about 7db instead of 14db!!). The big drop off at the top end actually makes me happy (I think....) because it's the top end of my mix that tends to be dull. Having it drop off (yeah, even with some EQ on my power amp) will encourage me to add a little more. Perfect. (I hope I'm right about that....)
The waterfalls look encouraging too. The RT60 time looks better, as does the distribution across the bottom end from 20-260hz.
^ waterfall two days ago
^ waterfall today
Now that I finally seem to be getting somewhere, what could my next step be? Am I right about my thoughts about where I am right now? Any other guidance?
Appreciated, as always;
Chris