John Sayers' Recording Studio Design Forum Archive

Here is a design i would like some feed back on.


The control room is already there as displayed, minus the double doors and double windows into the tracking room.

The tracking room is at present, a car parking area, room for two cars end to end, and is directly located under two bedrooms which are on the first floor of the house.

The walls shown in red in the proposed tracking room, are johns wall design.

Is this feasible, stupid, not a bad idea?

I am just wondering if by angling the walls like this, it gets rid of parallel wall problems, and if i build them as per the design at SAE, combined with a besser brick outside wall to fill in the at present open car space, I would get a good STC as well as good acoustic sound in the tracking room.

Floors of the tracking room and control room is concrete.



The tracking room would be used to record live bands.

I would plan on gobos, or isolation boxes for amps.


Any advice appreciated.

I apologise for the quality of the drawing...


thanks in advance

Peter

do you have any dimensions?? I'd need to know what size rooms we are dealing with.

cheers
john

HI John

attached is a drawing with the info you requested. I hope...

The yellow wall would be new construction, so it could be anything. Part of ground level of the house is besser brick, part is normal brick. I figured besser brick would be cheaper ....??

Note the Red wall in Room A that is shared by Room B, is i am pretty sure non load bearing, so it could be removed. Though I was hoping to keep costs to a minimum.

I figured if i could fill in the car parking space to create a tracking room, and put a double window and double door(sound lock) in the existing wall, then treat the inside of the tracking room i might get away with it...




thanks in advance

Peter

Ok - well to start with the 11' x 11' control room is pretty small. Could you knock down the red wall and make part of the large room control room space??

BTW with brick and besser block the STC is better if it's rendered or painted. see attached

cheers
john

Hi John

yep the red brick wall that adjoins the proposed tracking room could be removed.

Looking at the STC , i would definately make the new wall to be built, of besser brick....

thanks

Peter

Bump.....



Peter

how about something along these lines.

cheers
john

John

firstly let me say thank you for your feedback on this, it is most appreciated.

I am impressed by your plan.....


I have a couple of questions....if you dont mind.

Firstly, by going with that plan, the construction gets a bit more complicated than what i originally had in mind.

My original idea was to just build the tracking room, knock a hole in the existing wall between the new tracking room and existing control room, for a door lock and window.

Thinking being, if we ever move from here, i simply knock out that door and window and the whole thing becomes a L shaped rumpus room... or the real estate agent could advertise it as a home cinema room due to the acoustic treatment...

So i was thinking by building the tracking room with non parallel walls as per my original post, that might take care of A: containing a live drummer to the outside world due to having a solid brick wall on all four sides, and B: taming any acoustic probs that the room might have, via using your slot resonator wall designs.

I am not particularly unhappy with my existing control room sound, though i would bet London to a brick, that if i built your design i would probably love it.

where you have booth 1 on the diagram, is where i would ideally like to put the drums. Because that is the most solid part of the construction, and most likely to contain the noise. Is it possible to get a similar layout to your design, with the larger studio area where the iso booth is now? That would really make me consider going that way.

Also with regard to my original design, is that kind of tracking room design, feasible Where i build the angled walls?

The green door in the Room A, (control room), on the second diagram i posted, goes to a lounge family room, that can be utilised as another tracking space if required, actually at present thats where drums are tracked. So it would be nice to get some distance between the drums and that room.


So i guess to summarise,

is building the tracking room as i orignally posted it, a useless idea, and

is it possible given the rooms, on your plan, to move iso booth 1 to where studio is and vice versa

thanks mate


Peter

is building the tracking room as i orignally posted it, a useless idea, and

is it possible given the rooms, on your plan, to move iso booth 1 to where studio is and vice versa

No your original tracking room idea is fine - it's the small control room that's the problem I'm trying to resolve.

Here are some other possibilities. I like the option 3 but it's way more than you intend, just bare in mind that a finished control room can be classified as a Home Theatre. Did you see Rick's post at HR where his control room got him an extra $6K

cheers
john

John

thank you verymuch for the time and effort you have put in.

I appreciate it heaps.

I like all the designs.....

I will get back to you if i have some more questions, but there is plenty there to work with and think about.

thanks again

Ps

that cold beer is still waiting for you in Rye...


Peter