Carsten's Nightsky Studio Thread

How thick should my walls be, should I float my floors (and if so, how), why is two leaf mass-air-mass design important, etc.

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Carsten's Nightsky Studio Thread

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We finally stared to work in the shed where my little studio will be.
You can find some pics on this site:
http://www.nightsky-music.de/studio.htm
I will try to find out how to post my pics direcly to this thread.
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Wow! The photos are fabulous! 8)

Inserting photos in this thread, when they are hosted on another server, is quite easy. Just do this:

[img]http://www.nightsky-music.de/fotos,abbi ... nsicht.jpg[/img]
Caption can be placed here

[img]http://www.nightsky-music.de/fotos,abbi ... ziehen.jpg[/img]
Caption can be placed here

[img]http://www.nightsky-music.de/fotos,abbi ... en%202.jpg[/img]
Caption can be placed here

The photos are already an appropriate size, so it will be very easy! :mrgreen:

I thought about doing it for you, but I thoght you would like to add your own captions. :)
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Yes, thanks sharward!
So this is how it works.
This is the building:
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I made this drawing with aid of John.
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Today we layed the concret floor inside. After another wall has been made we will start with the floating floor in about a week.
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Any ideas, suggestions, comments are welcome!
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Thanks for your help, Keith!!!
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Post by Harald F. Metzner »

Hallo Carsten,

ich wünschte ich könnt hier so was bauen... Großartig!

I would keep from using Laminat for the floors, because of static electricity loading. We had that in one room and had big problems because we allways got hit by the static electricity. Also it still is not clear how you can dump it when break it out later. In my next room i will use only osb on top or real wood. (ready made floor - Fertigparket).

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No Laminat?

It's used everywhere around in this forum.
f.e:

http://www.johnlsayers.com/phpBB2/viewt ... &start=285

What do others think?
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Post by Harald F. Metzner »

Carsten,

Laminat has become very hip for the last years, but (for me) it is allways second choice, because it is chemical prepared wood (if there is any wood in it at all) and if you dump it its critical. It is easy to handle and cheap, but if you can use something else, think about it. Something from oekotest (in german):

http://www.carechannel.de/cgi/ot/otgs.c ... &doc=35462

http://www.carechannel.de/cgi/vb/vbgs.c ... rage=36077

What about Kork?

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Post by DanFanCazy »

Hi Harald!

Thank you for your advice!
Yesterday I talked to a friend who did a lot of building and he confirmed your statement. He worked a lot with Parador floors as they produce in a city nearby (Coesfeld). He had the idea to ask them to take some laminat out of the production before it gets the final finish. Maybe not a bad idea.
He suggested cork too, but I want to make the floor reflective preventing the room from getting too "dry".
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Post by Harald F. Metzner »

Hi Carsten,

what about OSB (18 or 22 mm)? I want to use OSB plates for my controll room and then paint it or use oil/finish.

(in german:)

http://www.oekotest.de/cgi/ot/otgs.cgi? ... &doc=27606

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I'm planning to use OSB as the first layer on the floated woodbeam construction.
As a finish I find it a little too rough.
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Hi everybody!
During the last two days the rearwall has been made.
We left the big hole to have the option to build a relaxing room or another recording room later and to have some more space to work.
It will probably be closed when we have finished the floor.
With the new concrete floor and the wall in it the room begins to take shape. And we are more proud of the work beeing done every day. :D
Today I received the neoprenpads.
Do you think floor joists of 6,5x5cm are strong enough to carry the floor?
If anyone has ideas, comments ...please let me know!
What does Knightfly think?
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Wonderful photos! 8) It's like being there! :mrgreen:
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I made a more detailed sketch of the inner construction:

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What do you think?
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That looks like a pretty open, quiet site; what is your purpose for the floated floor? Steve
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Post by sharward »

Guten Tag, Carsten!

I have some questions. According to the illustration the neoprene pucks appear to be wider than the joists. While that does stabilize them somewhat and make them less likely to slip off, I believe that will have an adverse effect on their ability to deflect. You probably already know that you need to be extremely careful to calculate the weight of your structure so that you do not risk overloading or underloading your elastometers (pucks). I'm concerned that by putting pressure on only a portion of the puck, it will not have opportunity to squeeze out to the sides -- which, as I understand it, is critical in the performance of the puck.

Perhaps I'm worrying too much... But I would hate to see all of this beautiful and difficult work be compromised by something that some careful calculations and trimming would have addressed.

Steve (a.k.a. Knightfly), what are your thoughts on this?

Finally, the "enlarged" version of that illustration is indeed very large -- 2626x2359! :shock: (The small one is quite nice though at 500x449. :) )

--Keith

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