neoprene floating floor

[skinny]

Where is a good place to buy neoprene for this. I have scoured this site so if it was mentioned I am sorry I may have missed it. Also, there was a post on polystyrene for floating. Does this work just as well for a small room built on concrete.
thanks,
skinny

[AVare]

No great insult intended, but if yiou "scoured thsi site" how did you miss DON'T EVEN think ABOUT POSTING before you READ THIS... with its very clear remark about location in the world and different prices suopliers?

[skinny]

I guess I was not intending to break the rules, I just don't know exactly what kind of neoprene product to use and a hint on how I can get it for the purpose of floating floors. I will google instead.
I am still wondering about the polystyrene vs. neoprene

[giles117]

Polystyrene will never handle the load.

Neoprene is your solution. I had a post around here showing the most common Neoprene availabel and in that post Knightfly commented about the various thicknesses and what not. go find that thread........

Try floating floor as a search topic for example.....

[sharward]

I would also be remiss in my duties if I didn't mention the fact that floating a floor is not an easy thing to do correctly. In fact, it's not even an easy thing to do incorrectly!

There is so much to the "to float or not to float" decision point. I battled it for weeks, probably months. I finally decided not to float... And if you've spent any time in my thread in the past couple of weeks, you'd know that I certainly did not take the "easy way out!"

If after doing all of your research you decide you want to float, make sure you're not shortchanging yourself by having inferior walls or ceiling(s). Remember that isolation is a "lowest common denominator" equation -- even if you do an A+ job on your floor, but you have B- walls and a C- ceiling, you'll have little better than a C- solution. The final score is not based on an average of all of the parts -- it's essentially based on the worst of the parts.

--Keith

[TomM]

I would also be remiss in my duties if I didn't mention the fact that floating a floor is not an easy thing to do correctly. In fact, it's not even an easy thing to do incorrectly!

There is so much to the "to float or not to float" decision point. I battled it for weeks, probably months. I finally decided not to float... And if you've spent any time in my thread in the past couple of weeks, you'd know that I certainly did not take the "easy way out!"

If after doing all of your research you decide you want to float, make sure you're not shortchanging yourself by having inferior walls or ceiling(s). Remember that isolation is a "lowest common denominator" equation -- even if you do an A+ job on your floor, but you have B- walls and a C- ceiling, you'll have little better than a C- solution. The final score is not based on an average of all of the parts -- it's essentially based on the worst of the parts.

--Keith

Keith, is that really the case in this situation? I understand that concept for ceiling and walls.... but say you build an air tight room with 1 leaf...you don't use 2 because of space or whatever. Instead you build a floated drum riser or floor. Wouldn't that help the amount of sound going through the wall if it limits the vibrations of the wall? Or maybe it would make the acoustics better by not resonanting frequencies as much in the wall??

[sharward]

I'm not the expert on all of this, but I would think that a one leaf room would suck even if you could levitate the drums weightlessly in the air.

[giles117]

Just to confirm. If you build a 1 Leaf room, and float the drums, you have done nothign to isolate the sound that drums make. (Snare doesnt live on a floor, it rests in a stand) when you hit a snare it makes noise that noise will travel through that one leaf and cause you mucho grief....

SO a 1 leaf room is a total waste of time. You MUST build 2 leafs in order to effective isolate/reduce Sound transmission.

here is a real world example....

I Constructed my Studio. Prior to completion of the Live room I have one leaf done (the control room side) we had an emergency Drum Session.

I clearly hear those drums coiming through my double layered control room wall. even with a ton of insulation in the cavity. When I finished the Live rooms wall(s) and a subsequent drum session was done, you heard nothing.

The way it was intended......

SO dont waste your time and do HALF a job....

[sharward]

Right... Half job = no job at all!

[firstbat71]

What do you guys mean by leafs? So a 1 leaf wall would be one layer of drywall. And two leafs would be two layers of drywall or other material?

[sharward]

Nope. Follow that link to the introduction thread and then follow the link within that post to the Reference Area.

[knightfly]

When you get to the REFERENCE section, it's the very first thread... Steve