new room for home studio, and introducing myself:)

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new room for home studio, and introducing myself:)

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Hi!

it's amazing how much information I already found here just while searching this forum. from construction tutorials to explanations of how different kind of absorbers work:)

I'm a guy from Holland who plays guitar and makes electronic music, sometimes combining the two of them. So I do a little mic-recording, and mainly synths trouw a mixing panel into my computer. I used to have a single room appartment -living room, sleeping room, and which had my 'studio' in a corner. obviously the avccoustics sucked big time :horse:

now I moved to another place and have a room just for creating a home studio. it's a the room is 4.4 x 2.8 m.

I added a pic. (little squares are monitors, the circle is my head and the other rectangular shapes are absorbers that I haven't build yet (10cm rockwool with air gap between them and the wall). the large round cornered shape is a couch. height: 230 cm.


I plan on making broadband absorbers/bass traps and maybe high frequency foam on the ceiling above the listening position.

anny comments on this plan? should I make more panels, for example for placing behind my monitors or more panels on the side walls? or should I also make a superchunk for the left rear corner?

I hope you guys can think with me, because I'm a n00b :roll: the only response I got on a Dutch forum was: try to use the serach engine :cop:
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Hi sunspot, and welcome!

I would suggest that you put more absorption directly behind your speakers, on the front wall, and also move your absorbers on the side wall so that they are at the first reflection points, plus put another absorber ("cloud") at the first reflection point on the ceiling.

I would also try to put bass traps across all four vertical corners.

What is that at the rear of the room? It looks like a double sliding door? You also need some kind of absorption on that, or just in front of it. If you need to use that door, then you could mount it on wheels, so you can move it out of the way.

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Hi Stuart

let me give some more information:

at the rear of the room are single glass windows (which probably let the bass right trough?)
there is a lightweight curtain hanging in front of, or at the sides of the window depending the time of the day. it doens't seem to do much to the acoustics of the room though. There is carpet on the floor, right on top of the concrete. It probably does something to the acoustics. but can't compare. it's flat carpet so nothink you'll sink in when you walk over it.

in the right back corner there are pipes from floor to ceiling and the window is up to the right wall, so no corner of walls there to place a trap.

I updated the picure with more absorbers and a 'cloud' in grey. The ceiling is super-hard concrete so I don't feel like trying to drill a hole in it again, but mayube I'll just have to get over it and get it done :evil:

I think I could also make small absorbers to place in the top corners of the room where the corner of the walls meets the ceiling. (above the ones I drew in the pic)

For now I'm still thinking about the thickness of the absorbers. I think I'm still going for the 10cm rockwool. and maybe making it thicker in the corners. or 5 cm and 10 cm in the corners.. Obviously I still need to read up more on this I must admit, and I'll do that! ofcourse suggestions are welcome.

well I'm kinda on a tight budget but I think I can make anough absorbers and traps to decently improve accoustics in this room.
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it would indeed be the most symmmetrical layout, but I don't want to put absorbers in front of the windows, or in front of my door.

Although it would be nice to have perfect acoustics, I'm willing to sacrifice a little to have a more practical situation. still, if the desk in front of the window is a better option I could go for that (with no absorbers in front of the window). it's also no problem to bring the desk from the wall more into the room.

In the mean time I've read here that an absorber even next to a corner can improve acoustics a lot. so it definitely is an option to place an absorber on my door, and next to the couch. that way I'll have all the corners covered, although not perfectly, right?

PS don't pay attention to the size of the absorbers, I really didn't measure anything but jjust drew them quickly as a sketch
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not sure having the door swing into your desk is practical. this may be a case where you put the desk on the middle of the long wall to the left in your drawing and beef up the rear wall (wall w/ door) absorption.
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the door can fully open, and my drawinbg isn't that accurate ;)
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Then I think try it out. Worst case you need to rearrange things to get it just the way you want it.
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HI Gulfo,
yeah that's a good idea. When I place my desk in front of the window I can put absorbers on the back wall.

I should leave my gear in the box and just install my computer and monitors. first I'll try to make my absorbers.
hopefully I'll come to that this week!

I found Knauf Ecose panels: some sort of non-irritating glasswool. I asked the company for rockwool 221 but they didn't have it and suggested Knauf TP 416.

like some other member suggested I'll use woood from Ikea (the Gorm series). supercheap!
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an update with a new pic. I already got myself fabric for covering the panels and in a few minutes I'm going to get myself a pack of knauf TP 416 and start making the first traps.

in the mean time I've thought things over and rearranged the original plan.
the windows would reflect a lot of high frequencies so I switched position in the room.
In the pic the red things are absorbers. the one in the back is the only one horizontally placed above the couch. the ones next to the listening position are vertical in my pic, but could be placed horizontally if recommended. orange are 2 panels next to each other as a cloud. the 2 corner panels are double thickness (10cm in stead of 5). Then the panel in the top right (only 1 !) corner will be placed on the door, or on the rear wall. I'm thinking rear wall.
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finished 2 panels: I made panels like many have made them here. a simple wooden frame made of 4 pieces on the outside, the isialtion material on the inside and fabric stapled with a simple staplegun for more aestatic appeal

and I tested them in a simple way: I stood at the listening position and clapped my hands (a very reverbed with rapid delay sound). then I placed a panel on either side and clapped my hands again. wow! (a lot less reverb now without the annnoying delays, and that with only 2 panels :)

My girlfriend took the same test and was also really surprised of the big difference

can't wait to finish them all!

pics will follow soon. the chrager of my cam is still somewhere in a box after moving to this place:p
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pics!
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