New Studio Build in Workshop, Help Needed!

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New Studio Build in Workshop, Help Needed!

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I recently moved to a new house (UK) which has a approx 27ft L x 10ft W workshop/garage in the back garden. This workshop was a joint venture between the previous owner and the next door neighbor. Planning was approved ten years ago and equally splits down the center boundary of each property via a party wall.

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One on the left.
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Note: Window and Single door on side structure.
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Note: Double Doors on back view.
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Planning.
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Note: There was no seperate "store wall" built in the building to the left. (my building)
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Main view looking down from main front garage doors.
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View looking from middle of workshop looking down to back end. (The proposed studio space hopefully!)
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Looking from back end of workshop from double doors in. Single door is on right hand side. The brown leather sofa is basically where a new, solid dividing wall will be built.
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Ceiling joists.
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Note: Party wall for next door, Note gap at top of wall.
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Up in ceiling area.
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Consumer Unit.
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The construction of the building is two skin I think you call it, with what looks to be thermalite blocks on the inner skin and facing bricks on the outer with an air gap in between. The ceiling joists have thick ply-board already attached underneath from the previous owner. One of those drop down to go into the ceiling. The gaps up there in the ceiling joists are filled blocks of polystyrene.

My plan was to build a (control) room within a room for a section of the workshop for working on tracks, mixing, mastering. This would be from the back of the building upto to point where there is a window which is about half or just over half of the space. My first thought was to block up the double door at the back on the buidling, block another wall up to divide the workshop and have one access point in and out.

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I have measured the space which would work out at approx:

430cm (14.1ft) in length (back wall to where the front of the window starts)
264cm (8.6ft) wide (side to side)
238cm (7.8ft) floor to original ceiling joists

I ideally want to have it heavily soundproofed so the neighbours can't hear and I have my own space. The music recorded in there with be mainly electronic music through synths, drum machines. I have been looking at various videos online and first thought about building the room within a room structure with dense concrete blocks sat on 5mm neoprene rubber with a floating floor.

My first thoughts were similar to this video in a few ways:

[YOUTUBE]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aFG-W9nvSrQ[/YOUTUBE]

I then got stuck at how my ceiling would work. However, with the costs of the blocks and the work involved I then decided against it, also because the brick/block structure is already sort of in place although I don't know how suitable adding more additonal blocks would be + the loss of space.

My plan at present is based on a few videos I've seen online with having an independent stud wall with a stud ceiling built (again sat on neoprene rubber so a room within a room) with 100mm rockwool rwa45 in place then 2 layers of plasterboard over the top of the inner stud. I have also seen things like resilient channels and genie clips but i'm not 100% sure if I would still need these because of the rubber the studing will be sat on which I assume is still decoupling the structure from the original building. Advice would be greatly appreciated on this point.

I'm thinking if the studio basically was built out of timber with a ceiling incorporated then it would limit any sound getting through and maximizing the airtight potential, although i'm still not 100% certain on that. I thought it may even be possible to attach a fire door to this stud structure, although i'm not expert when it comes to things like this. Advice would also be greatly appreciated on this point.

Another issue i'm looking at is the original ceiling in the building, the previous owner has just attached plyboards to the ceiling joists so I'm not sure if the best thing is to take those down and place more rockwool within them, maybe even put plasterboard over then or even just put the plyboard back. Again, this is something that has been going over in my mind for a while now so any advice would be greatly appreciated on this again. The pitched roof element is something which I'm not sure i should be looking into but I'm just not that sure.

As for the electrics, lighting etc, it will all be surface mounted with trunking, I'm thinking the way in for the electrics will be through a small hole in the new solid dividing wall which will then be acoustically sealed.

For ventilation, another hole or two in the same solid wall with 100mm plastic soil pipe which will be held in place with expanding foam with rockwool around it. The pipes will go into a type of baffling box which will be staggered inside with rockwool. Not sure if this is the best way, again advice would go greatly to helping me along.

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This is where i'm at thinking about it at present.

I'm watching so many videos online with different ways to build a room within in room and I feel now is the time where I need to get some decent help on how to approach this so I don't start throwing money away.

Any advice would be a real gamechanger, this has been a major headache for three months now. Hopefully by the end of this month I hope to try to get this completed and finally start working on music.

Thanks for reading :)
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Re: New Studio Build in Workshop, Help Needed!

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Anyone care to help? Could really do with sounding off ideas to try and make this a reality.
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No one care to help or have I missed something out here? Looking at the rules of this forum I have pretty much gone into decent detail about what I would like to achieve or so I thought.
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There is an announcement at the top of the forum about what to do to assure getting as many responses as possible.
The announcement leads to this post (click here). Actually, several people on this forum who are experts will most likely not reply if you don't do what is written in that post. Many others who are very helpful, will probably not reply out of respect for the moderators' wishes.

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Hi, Stuart. Many Thanks for the reply.

Yes, I had a good look at the rules to try and make sure I just get enough info as possible. That is why I edited my original post probably around ten times, adding extra details, photos, planning permission drawing etc.
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... but you still missed the most important point of all! In large blue letters, about half way down the page...

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Re: New Studio Build in Workshop, Help Needed!

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Location right? I thought I had already edited in profile to say UK, also mentioned it at start of thread. Will check again, thanks :)

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