any reason?

jal · Post by **jal** » Sat Jul 30, 2005 2:08 am

any reason why noone has commented on my questions here: http://www.johnlsayers.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=4112
i noticed there was alot of views.

-jal

Dan Fitzpatrick · Post by **Dan Fitzpatrick** » Sat Jul 30, 2005 2:22 am

jal,

you get the best and most answers when your questions are very specific.

there are a lot of decisions that can't be made for you, you have to make some descisions about what you want and then ask specific questions relating to these.

hope that helps.

dan

knightfly · Post by **knightfly** » Sat Jul 30, 2005 5:55 am

Also, if you've read the top announcement in each forum you'll see that only waiting one day for answers isn't realistic; especially if you want them from me, as I only have a finite amount of time to donate and a really wierd schedule.

That announcement

http://www.johnlsayers.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=3231

also directs you to much of the info you'll need to understand more about construction methods for sound rooms.

Once you've read thru at least the top 3 or 4 links in the REFERENCE section, you should understand why Dan's not enthused about metal buildings - also, $20k for 900 sf isn't realistic unless it's JUST materials; even then, it's gonna be tight. Thanks largely to the Chinese building boom, everything we want for studio building is 2-3 times as expensive as it was 2 years ago and probably won't come down in price anytime soon.

Your budget comes to $22 per square foot for a 900 sf structure; STANDARD, NON-soundproof NON-acoustically treated space typically costs more like $70 to $100 a square foot and up (including labor, etc) so you can see why I commented about materials only

Also, if you're intention is to record live drums in the middle of the night, you REALLY need to do some homework; it's doable, but it ain't cheap... Steve

jal · Post by **jal** » Sun Jul 31, 2005 1:40 pm

alright well thanks for ur honest response guys. when i get started ill send pictures.

thanks- jal

knightfly · Post by **knightfly** » Mon Aug 01, 2005 12:24 am

Don't be a stranger; none of these comments are intended to try and discourage you, just prepare you for when reality sets in. If you get ideas on ways to do things for less, etc, please post them here and we can help you decide whether they will work, or maybe even improve on them, etc - that's what we're here for. (Of course, we'll gladly look at your pix too :=)) Steve

jal · Post by **jal** » Mon Aug 01, 2005 5:34 am

absolutely. no it doesnt discourage me. ill get it done. thanks though, and i will definitely post pictures.

-jal

jal · Post by **jal** » Mon Aug 01, 2005 6:59 am

i have aleady read alot of the reference area, i think i understand the mass-air mass thing. when i said i was gonna "add a large outer shell consisting of thick insulation and a couple layers of dry wall against the inside wall of the steel building. not unlike silvas walls." i meant like the last wall on the picture below.

but i needed a good seal between the steel wall and the wall im gonna build. i thought the insulation would be good, cause it would form against the steel wall.
i get the reason why sharward would consider that a three leaf, because of the steel wall (leaf 1), insulation (air), 2 layers of drywall (leaf 2), insulation (air), then another 2 layer of drywall (leaf 3) . thats why ur saying itd be a three leaf, right?
what i was planning on doing was:
steel wall (leaf 1), insulation (air), 2 layers of drywall (leaf 2), insulation (air), 3" air gap (air), insulation (air), then burlap or something over the insulation. would that be better?

thanks- jal
i think maybe i shouldnt be saying this on this post and that i should be saying it on the "starting totally from scratch" post. am i right?

knightfly · Post by **knightfly** » Mon Aug 01, 2005 10:21 am

Yeah, probably a good idea; the mod panel doesn't allow combining of threads, so if you re-post this last (cut and paste) into the other thread, I'll then delete this thread.

Once that's done, I'll answer the rest of your concerns in the other thread... Steve