Carsten's Nightsky Studio Thread

knightfly · Post by **knightfly** » Thu Jul 21, 2005 5:40 am

Carsten, been meaning to get back to this and kept forgetting -

IMO, with your studio on the OTHER SIDE of a large BARN from the "house of the stubborn farmer", I would not concern myself with floating floors for the sake of isolation from the house.

If you want the improved iso for production reasons (easier to set drum mics thru speakers, etc) then that's a different matter... Steve

DanFanCazy · Post by **DanFanCazy** » Thu Jul 21, 2005 9:03 am

Hi knightfly!

you wrote:

Carsten, been meaning to get back to this and kept forgetting -

I understood you were very busy with your job recently.
I appreciate your comments a lot! As I have already started to work during the last days I will keep bothering you with a lot of questions the next days if you don't mind!

IMO, with your studio on the OTHER SIDE of a large BARN from the "house of the stubborn farmer", I would not concern myself with floating floors for the sake of isolation from the house.

I think you are perfectly right on this point. We already abandoned the floating floor plan. I will follow John's sketch for the inner construction with the inside-out walls and ceilings. What do you think? We already did some work during the last days, beginning with the two layers of gypsum under the existing ceiling. (I'll post some photos later.)

By the way, I made a list of words I had to look up in the dictonary to understand most of the building terms in this forum. As I am a german who lives in the Netherlands for ten years this list is in english-german-dutch. Maybe it could help others to understand what the h&%7 you are talking about? Would it be useful to post somewhere in this forum?

knightfly · Post by **knightfly** » Fri Jul 22, 2005 8:31 am

Sure, post it right here; it may grow into a part of the REFERENCE section if it's useful... Steve

On your "can't remove" ceiling stuff - I agree with John, just build your inner leaves heavier to make up for the extra leaf's bad effects. Again, as far away as you are I don't think it's gonna be very critical...

DanFanCazy · Post by **DanFanCazy** » Fri Jul 22, 2005 11:41 am

How thick should the insulation/air gap between the outer and inner walls be? (I planned to use 8cm isover acoustic insulation) Is there a way to make a precise calculation?
C.

DanFanCazy · Post by **DanFanCazy** » Wed Jul 27, 2005 11:19 am

Here is a list of some of the building terms in english-german-dutch.
I will update it from time to time.
Maybe it can be useful.

groetjes,
C:

knightfly · Post by **knightfly** » Sat Jul 30, 2005 4:55 am

http://forum.studiotips.com/viewtopic.php?t=1414

I'm pretty sure you have to be logged on to download - this will require you joining the forum. you want this

http://forum.studiotips.com/download.php?id=1141

Don't wait too long; I'm not sure how long these files will be available since there's been a major emotional upset at that site.

ONce you have the file, plug in your outer wall values and proposed inner wall mass, then adjust the air gap (not between frames, but between inner surfaces of panels) to get resonance - the lower the resonance the better the isolation, ideal is 1.5 to 2 OCTAVES below the lowest frequency you want to stop.

I've yet to play with this particular calculator, but can probably help if you get lost... Steve

DanFanCazy · Post by **DanFanCazy** » Mon Feb 06, 2006 6:10 am

Hi everybody!

You haven't heard of me for a long time since I've been very busy during the last months, building the studio and picking up my daily job again(performing,teaching,composing...).
Finally I want to say thank you for all the information and replies I had from this great website and the people who kindly answered my stupid questions!
My studio is up now, we started recording during the christmas hollidays and are now beginning to realize what we built during the last year. It's a fantastic place to let creativity unfold itself. (Is this a good english sentence?)
-whatever...
You can find a little photo documentation of the building process here:
http://www.nightsky-music.de/bauphase.htm

This is what the controllroom looks like at the moment:

And the recording room:

I will post more pics and a little film we made in the studio to this site:
http://www.nightsky-music.de/studio.htm

Thanks again and keep this site up!!
you helped to make a dream come true!

Carsten

knightfly · Post by **knightfly** » Tue Feb 07, 2006 10:14 am

Lookin' good Carsten, how's the isolation between you and the irritable farmhouse trolls??!?

Steve

DanFanCazy · Post by **DanFanCazy** » Tue Feb 07, 2006 1:07 pm

Hi Steve!

Yeah, it's so cool to work there. The isolation is ok. I don't now a method of measuring it, but we did some testing with Fender amps at volumes which actually caused pain being in the room. Outside you could still whisper to each other.
Some of the sound comes through the windows, as the glass of the outer windows is pretty thin. We could still change that but it seems not necessary.
The farmer troll

got more and more astonished as the building went on and is now very proud of what happens in his old shed.
Did you see through the pics on my website a little? Are there any things you never would have done or any other comments, suggestions?
For the inner construction we followed John’s drawing earlier in this thread. It was a lot of work, but it worked! We built modules of 2x1,25 meters with two layers of gipsum on a wooden frame and attached them to beams to reduce the span. I noticed that there are not so many pics of how we built the inner celing modules. I will post some later.
There are still a lot of things to do (a studio table, wireing chanels in the controlroom, the heating, slot resonators, two doors...) but I think a studio is never finished anyway, so now we take our time to do the “finetuning”.

Groetjes,
Carsten